2014-08-13 Caution about fire extinguishers for electrical fires.

1) An expert in our group advised that people need to be cautious about using fire extinguishers.  He said this:

I’m a bit concerned about the recommendation in 5) of Aug 12th Update to ‘keep fire extinguishers handy’.  That’s because fighting fires with 240 VAC involved isn’t for amateurs – should be attempted only by those who know what they’re doing.  For example, if one uses a fire extinguisher that doesn’t have a Type C symbol on it (indicating OK for electrical fires – usually charged with a dry non-conductive powder) electrocution could result.   As well, once the 240 VAC current starts flowing to ground through the burning/melting meter there’s little likelihood of putting it out with a fire extinguisher; the only way to do so is to turn the power off at the pole (*). I think it would be worth cautioning readers about this, and as well to say something about not using water on a meter fire.

*  I think a BCH line crew is supposed to do this (note time delay for them to get there), but I’ve heard of fire depts doing it to save valuable time. A rural area chief once told me he carries a shotgun to shoot out the pole breaker if BCH is too slow getting there.  Note – this procedure was in place long before sm’s came along.

2) Attached is the current version of the class action notice of claim that has been filed. We have many new members who might not have read it.

The GE 1-220 is used in Ontario  and has also been involved in fires. The event in Palo Alto, CA, USA is just one that involved this meter.  $$meters basically are all the same, regardless of brand.


3) We desperately need guidelines for exposure to wireless devices, especially to protect children who are being exposed to RF from Wi-Fi in schools, being allowed to put laptops and iPads on their laps, and are sleeping with wireless devices. Here are declarations, one signed by many famous and well-respected researchers, and another signed by medical doctors. Please share with your MPs who should be pressuring the government to implement the Precautionary Principle signed by Canada decades ago.


4) As we’ve heard so often, honeybees are disappearing due, no doubt, to many environmental assaults, including RF. Many people have noticed few insects, bees, birds after they get $$meters. One member even said a hive that was within a few feet of her $meter died.  Another member wrote this:

I have grown tomatoes in containers for many years.  This year, I added a few extra.  There are no bees anywhere to be seen, even though the plants are healthy and have plenty of blossoms.  Some plants have no fruit, while others have only very few.  I have never seen anything like it!

Out of 13 plants, we will be lucky to have, all combined, as many tomatoes as I used to get from a single vine.  I used to see bees buzzing about the tomato plants all the time, but this year they are all missing!

Our unhealthy s. meter is contained in a Faraday cage, but unfortunately not the neighbours, nor their Wi-Fi, DECT phones and the cell tower in the far distance.

The writing is on the wall!

From another member:

A new project has set out to help understand the issue in individual colonies and bring the problem to the people called Open Source Beehives. This multi-continent partnership between Open Tech Collaborative and Fab Lab Barcelona proposes public participation through easily made backyard hives in conjunction with software that will track hive health….WITH WIRELESS


4) The original document “Declaration: Doctors Call for Protection from Radiofrequency Radiation Exposure”, dated July 9th, 2014, had something like 20 signatories. By July 16th, that number had increased to 38. As other Canadian MDs may be interested, here below is an easy way to connect. The link to the Declaration text is provided and it includes the names and credentials of the 38 signatories.


p.s. If you’d like to receive the French version when it’s ready, please tell me or ask Dan.

From: “C4ST – DW” <dan@c4st.org>

Date: August 13, 2014

To: “‘Barb Payne'” <barb@transcriptionhero.com>

Subject: RE: Procedure re adding more MD’s to the declaration…

We will update the French version and have the below translated by our French crew for sending out. Maybe a day or two. English one below.

Re: MD’s that would like to be added to the medical submission, we need the following emailed to Wendyp@c4st.org and cc Dan@c4st.org.

I (full name) would like to be added to the Declaration to Health Canada : Doctors Call for Protection from Radiofrequency Radiation Exposure. The document is found at:  http://www.c4st.org/images/documents/hc-resolutions/medical-doctors-submission-to-health-canada-english.pdf

My name should appear as such: (please include credentials and affiliations)

I give C4ST my permission to post my name on the declaration posted on their website www.c4st.org

Dan Welland


Sent: August 13, 2014
To: BC Hydro Customer Service
Cc: ted@parsecsystems.com; john.horgan.mla@leg.bc.ca; commission.secretary@bcuc.com; patrick.wruck@bcuc.com; greg.reimer@bchydro.com; info@bcombudsperson.ca; dsnoble@shaw.ca
Subject: Re Failed Meter Installation Charge

To Whom it may concern.

I received my BC Hydro bill in the mail today. Upon examination of the charges, I see a Failed Meter Installation Charge of $65.

Please note:

there is no date of when this failed installation was to have occurred.

there was no notice left by BC Hydro that you had attempted to install another meter.

I am home at all times and the ONLY BC Hydro person who came by was on July 31/2014 to read the meter. At least that is what he told me when I went outside to check.

I object to a charge of $65 for something that has not occurred.

Please credit my account in the amount of $68.25 ($65. plus 3.25 GST).

Should you wish to replace my current analog with another analog, please make an appointment and I’ll be more than happy to accommodate you. Please note I said analog meter.

Thank you for your time. I look forward to your reply via email.

The appropriate people have been CC’d in this email. I would appreciate their help in this matter should BC Hydro refuse to co-operate.





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